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News & Announcements: Changes To Whisper Messaging Coming 9/18
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Dear Valued Members:
As of September 18, 2023, the Whisper Messaging chatroom feature will be reserved exclusively for VIP members, and members of a specific model's fan club.
Guest, Basic, and Premium-level members will still have access to all other free chat features.
Our goal here is to ensure free chat is more active, engaging, and welcoming to new customers, while reserving the most intimate level of access for super fans and elite-level members.
If you have any questions or concerns about this change, please reach out to our 24-hour Customer Service team.
Models still whisper at me, but I cannot reply,it is a pity, I think that with my level I deserve being able to whisper, it was useful to prepare for private shows.
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As of September 18, 2023, the Whisper Messaging chatroom feature will be reserved exclusively for VIP members, and members of a specific model's fan club.
Guest, Basic, and Premium-level members will still have access to all other free chat features.
Our goal here is to ensure free chat is more active, engaging, and welcoming to new customers, while reserving the most intimate level of access for super fans and elite-level members.
If you have any questions or concerns about this change, please reach out to our 24-hour Customer Service team.
Models still whisper at me, but I cannot reply,it is a pity, I think that with my level I deserve being able to whisper, it was useful to prepare for private shows.
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The negative effects of this change have already become visible. On my side, I can definitely observe a decreasing model/user engagement. Meanwhile, the chatrooms I've been visiting are relatively quiet.
I still don't get the point why you would want to enforce community interaction at the cost of user/model engagement. We are coming here to interact with models, not so much with each other. And even if we wanted, there was always the possibility to simply do so by not using the whisper function.
Meanwhile, strong privacy concerns arise cause you cannot even whisper during private shows, meaning that we lose a layer of protection in case the chatroom becomes visible to outside users by glitches. Another user described having seen this happen in a different thread.
And finally, I really cannot stand when a platform patronizes adult users with respect to their communication. In this case it's even worse cause many models will be the ones that actually suffer from this change – especially the independent models. When I first learned about the change, I was just thinking: Huh?! Do they wanna expel their users? That's only gonna backfire, and I hope they will revert the change.
The silence of F4F in return to the many user reactions is speaking volumes as well...
They can call me "dear valued member" as long as they wish, it is just one hell of disrespectful and insulting policy. Quote
I still don't get the point why you would want to enforce community interaction at the cost of user/model engagement. We are coming here to interact with models, not so much with each other. And even if we wanted, there was always the possibility to simply do so by not using the whisper function.
Meanwhile, strong privacy concerns arise cause you cannot even whisper during private shows, meaning that we lose a layer of protection in case the chatroom becomes visible to outside users by glitches. Another user described having seen this happen in a different thread.
And finally, I really cannot stand when a platform patronizes adult users with respect to their communication. In this case it's even worse cause many models will be the ones that actually suffer from this change – especially the independent models. When I first learned about the change, I was just thinking: Huh?! Do they wanna expel their users? That's only gonna backfire, and I hope they will revert the change.
The silence of F4F in return to the many user reactions is speaking volumes as well...
They can call me "dear valued member" as long as they wish, it is just one hell of disrespectful and insulting policy. Quote
I'm really not happy about whispering reserved to VIP's ......I don't want to pay more for this and that was an important thing to be able to do with models you like the mos. This is really disapointing
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The negative effects of this change have already become visible. On my side, I can definitely observe a decreasing model/user engagement. Meanwhile, the chatrooms I've been visiting are relatively quiet.
I still don't get the point why you would want to enforce community interaction at the cost of user/model engagement. We are coming here to interact with models, not so much with each other. And even if we wanted, there was always the possibility to simply do so by not using the whisper function.
Meanwhile, strong privacy concerns arise cause you cannot even whisper during private shows, meaning that we lose a layer of protection in case the chatroom becomes visible to outside users by glitches. Another user described having seen this happen in a different thread.
And finally, I really cannot stand when a platform patronizes adult users with respect to their communication. In this case it's even worse cause many models will be the ones that actually suffer from this change – especially the independent models. When I first learned about the change, I was just thinking: Huh?! Do they wanna expel their users? That's only gonna backfire, and I hope they will revert the change.
The silence of F4F in return to the many user reactions is speaking volumes as well...
They can call me "dear valued member" as long as they wish, it is just one hell of disrespectful and insulting policy.
This site it is still called Flirt 4 free, but after the change this flirt is no longer for free. Flirt means that your text is seen only by the model, and not by the whole room.
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I still don't get the point why you would want to enforce community interaction at the cost of user/model engagement. We are coming here to interact with models, not so much with each other. And even if we wanted, there was always the possibility to simply do so by not using the whisper function.
Meanwhile, strong privacy concerns arise cause you cannot even whisper during private shows, meaning that we lose a layer of protection in case the chatroom becomes visible to outside users by glitches. Another user described having seen this happen in a different thread.
And finally, I really cannot stand when a platform patronizes adult users with respect to their communication. In this case it's even worse cause many models will be the ones that actually suffer from this change – especially the independent models. When I first learned about the change, I was just thinking: Huh?! Do they wanna expel their users? That's only gonna backfire, and I hope they will revert the change.
The silence of F4F in return to the many user reactions is speaking volumes as well...
They can call me "dear valued member" as long as they wish, it is just one hell of disrespectful and insulting policy.
This site it is still called Flirt 4 free, but after the change this flirt is no longer for free. Flirt means that your text is seen only by the model, and not by the whole room.
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Exactly, flirting means having a personal conversation with a model. Whispering is where conversations can build up on a more "personal" level. It is where the intimacy and sparkling builds up that eventually leads into a private.
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Is it just me or does this change to whispers and reasoning behind it, seem to be a contradiction to the Flirt Rewards Program?
Whispers appear to have been removed partly to promote engagement between models and new users. However, part of the Flirt Rewards benefits is to “Rank up as high as you can and see where you stand amongst all users! Enter our top ranks and gain attention from your favorite models.”
It seems to me that the interaction between these two features of the site haven’t been thought through. Let’s make potential new users feel comfortable - so everyone (outside of VIP’s, Superfans and Elite members) are on a level field when it comes to getting the attention of the model But, let’s also have a “Rewards Program” that implies the higher you level up, the more attention you receive.
Just an observation. Interested to hear what other people think.
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Whispers appear to have been removed partly to promote engagement between models and new users. However, part of the Flirt Rewards benefits is to “Rank up as high as you can and see where you stand amongst all users! Enter our top ranks and gain attention from your favorite models.”
It seems to me that the interaction between these two features of the site haven’t been thought through. Let’s make potential new users feel comfortable - so everyone (outside of VIP’s, Superfans and Elite members) are on a level field when it comes to getting the attention of the model But, let’s also have a “Rewards Program” that implies the higher you level up, the more attention you receive.
Just an observation. Interested to hear what other people think.
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Exactly, flirting means having a personal conversation with a model. Whispering is where conversations can build up on a more "personal" level. It is where the intimacy and sparkling builds up that eventually leads into a private.
If you want to have a personal conversation with the model that no one else can see, take the model private
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If you want to have a personal conversation with the model that no one else can see, take the model private
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If you want to have a personal conversation with the model that no one else can see, take the model private
Except not every model offer PRIVATE shows, as a matter of fact a lot only offer multi-user shows.
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this decision for the whisper is a disaster...you cant learn to know the girls anymore, you cant negociate shows, tell what you like in private....you cant try to build intimacy...this is catastrophic
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Except not every model offer PRIVATE shows, as a matter of fact a lot only offer multi-user shows.
If you tell your model you want a PRIVATE, not a multi-user, you will get a PRIVATE. No model is going to refuse that much money.
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Created by:
jdmac
9/23/23 @ 5:05am
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Location: Somewhere in the USA
Posts: 5
Didn't find out about this until a model whispered to me and I got the notification when I tried to whisper back. Your site, your rules. And I have been on this site long enough to know that saying anything here in the forums isn't going to change things. Have a lot of memories from the past 18 years...
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I’m going to have to join about 10 models fan clubs because I can’t upgrade to VIP because it keeps saying error every time I’ve tried
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I’m going to have to join about 10 models fan clubs because I can’t upgrade to VIP because it keeps saying error every time I’ve tried
I had a similar problem, then I got the 3 months membership instead. that worked fine. Its cheaper too
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I had a similar problem, then I got the 3 months membership instead. that worked fine. Its cheaper too
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It's bad enough that they increased the prices of credit packages for international customers by creating "dynamic prices" linked to our poor exchange rates. Now they find another way of trying to get users to spend more money but purchasing VIP membership which is also affected by dynamic pricing, hence more expensive than the prices that the US users pay. It's a disgrace and as a result of all these poor changes, I have deliberately spent less money on the site!
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Didn't find out about this until a model whispered to me and I got the notification when I tried to whisper back. Your site, your rules. And I have been on this site long enough to know that saying anything here in the forums isn't going to change things. Have a lot of memories from the past 18 years...
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If you tell your model you want a PRIVATE, not a multi-user, you will get a PRIVATE. No model is going to refuse that much money.
Yeah, you keep believing that. A lot of models either don't know how to change their show type or their studio says they aren't allowed. Studios have a mentality that multiuser means more chances to make money because you can have more than one person in a show at a time. Just keep in mind two people at 40cpm is more than one person at 60cpm.
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And that folks is how you loose most of your little customers. I have credits, but as of now, I will now send money personally to whom I choose, no money needs to go to F4F. Even the models are upset. Too bad I just spent so much. Fool me twice, LOL.
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Yeah, I'm a "Legendary" member since 2016 who goes away on duty for weeks so VIP can be a waste when I'm not here. I am an ugly SOB so I have spent well as you can see a fortune, here to have fun. More than likely with two accounts I have hit the Legendary level more than twice. I don't like talking to members and the messaging system is slow and the models that don't speak English well can't communicate well on them. I whisper and I go on private. So I go private, I spend a ton of money, then I go. I can get the service I want from other sites. Screw this new system. And you are welcome for all the money I spent here. I'm not spending money to whisper. A lot of us here are not here to chat to other members. We are here to "chat" to your performers. When I hit Legendary, there was no acknowledgement. It's cool, who cares? I'm having my fun. Who cares what my status is right, only the models who want big spenders. So I go to models, I get a couple of private shows with tipping and I notice I am often their number 1 or 2 fan. And I don't chat to other members. I whisper that I want a private and BAM F4F makes their money. BAM the models make their money. I don't want another member seeing that I am asking for a private. I guess I can rudely just hit the go private button but I generally ask the model and try to get a nice attitude and intro from the get go. Like I said, I can go to another site so I don't have to interact with other members and most importantly to get my privacy.
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